CHC Confessions

  • I long to see the day when SH & KH sincerely repent, admit their mistakes & ask for forgiveness to the people they have lied to and abused. If they don't, I long to see SH charged and KH receive the heaviest sentence as examples to deter so-called God's servants manipulating God's children. The way they can still behave as if they had done nothing wrong is really painful to see.
  • Hi

    I am a Christian. In this CHC case I admit i would like KH and the gang to get guilty verdict. This goes against 10,000 plus people who still supports KH. They will condemn me and call me a hater.

    It's a twisted irony isn't it? Because 1 of the main reasons why these gang being found guilty is because of these 10,000 plus bro and sis in Christ. I care about all of you and wd like you to stop wasting money, time and your faith to these men. And seek only God.

    Thus i am not a hater. I do not even hate KH and the gang. Well may be a bit disgust toward what KH and SH did. But not hate... hopefully.

    So Singapore Court. The Korean court has done it. Now is your turn to do the right thing. Nail these group of people. And do us proud, once again.

    And yes as Christian i will pit this in my prayer.
  • Kong Hee is making a small investment by paying the lawyers to make frivolous applications of "No case to answer".

    In doing so, he bought time and the benefits of doubt for him to proclaim to his followers audaciously that "there is a 99.99% chance that there is no case to answer".

    This gives Kong Hee the window to urge his followers to fulfill the latest Arise & Build.

    In fact, he was off to Bandung to preach in a church that had previously given strong monetary support to the so-called "crossover" project.

    Why did this conservative church allow Kong Hee to preach there and probably to ask for donation again?
    Because Kong Hee told the senior pastor there that "there is a 99.99% chance that there is no case to answer".

    A small investment that reaps many folds return for Kong Hee indeed.
  • The Light That Is Dark - Spiritual Deception in the Church

    "Then watch out that the light in you may not be darkness."

    Luke 11:35 NAS
    When the disciples asked Yeshua (Jesus) about the signs of His coming and end of the age, the first thing Yeshua (Jesus) did was warn them not to be deceived by those who come in His name claiming to be Him (Matt. 24:4). Seven verses later, He warns them again about deception when He says, "And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many" (Matt. 24:11NAS). And again, He points out that "false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect" (Matt. 24:24NAS).

    Jesus also warns believers at Pergamos and Thyatira to repent for allowing the teachings of Balaam and Jezebel to be tolerated within the church (Rev. 2:12-29). These doctrines lead God's people astray whereby they unwittingly "eat things sacrificed unto idols, and commit acts of fornication" (Rev. 2:14). The context of this warning about false teachings extends down to the very time of Messiah's return at the end of the age (Rev. 2:24-25KJV). This means that the false doctrines of Balaam and Jezebel are being taught in the mainline churches today. Unfortunately, they can not see them because they have been deceived just like Jesus warned them not to.

    These warnings are about deceivers, both outside and inside the church, who would come and proclaim falsehoods about Yeshua (Jesus) and the Gospel of the kingdom. For most believers, deceivers outside the community of God are pretty easy to identify. Today, the most visible examples of this deception would be "The Da Vinci Code" and the Gnostic gospels of Thomas, Judas, and Mary Magdalene. However, false doctrines that are taught as biblical truths within the church are much harder to identify and even harder to confront. Therefore it's important to identify what these deceptive teachings look like and the packages they come in. Interested to read more click on the link below.

    Taken from: http://www.ascensionministries.net/spiritualDeceptionInTheChurch/theLightThatIsDarkArticle.php


    Let's watch this videos and see if it fits the "church" in this case CHC. Pastor possessed with evil spirits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR4RZn9XNcE

    Christian speaking in "tongue": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSvJ4CNuw-E





    The Light that is Dark - Spiritual Deception in the Church by Norm Franz, Ascension Ministries
    www.ascensionministries.net
    The Light that is Dark - Spiritual Deception in the Church Unravels the New Age Implications of the Purpose Driven Church. It sheds the light of Torah on demonic doctrines such as Fortune and Destiny, the worship of Angels, and mixing pagan practices with scriptural ones.
  • So, all these while, they have been "innocent"? Or are we just being misled by the news again? No case to answer? Really?
  • Mens Rea: Was There Or Was There Not?

    An exchange between DPP Mavis Chionh and defense counsel N. Sreenivasan on Jan 16 2014 as highlighted in CityNews Special Eidition:

    Chionh: The defence proposition has been premised on the key proposition that the auditors did not cry fraud so that must mean there is no fraud. That is rather like Bart Simpson saying, “I didn’t do it. Nobody saw me do it. You cannot prove anything.”

    Sreenivasan: May it please you, your Honour. Our line of defence is not Bart Simpson, by the way; I think it has more to do with mens rea, but we will deal with that in submissions. It was very clear from the day Foong Daw Ching was on the stand.

    What is a Criminal Breach of Trust?

    Penal Code 405 provides the definition. "Whoever, being in any manner entrusted with property, or with any dominion over property, dishonestly misappropriates or converts to his own use that property, or dishonestly uses or disposes of that property in violation of any direction of law prescribing the mode in which such trust is to be discharged, or of any legal contract, express or implied, which he has made touching the discharge of such trust, or wilfully suffers any other person to do so, commits criminal breach of trust”.

    As stared in the penal code, the Mens Rea (criminal intent) required for CBT is "Dishonesty".

    Penal Code 23 and 24 provides that a person has a dishonest state of mind in the criminal context if he or she intends, by unlawful means, to cause either "wrongful gain" to one person or "wrongful loss" to another.

    The questions are "Was there any wrongful loss to CHC? or "Was there any wrongful gain by SH?"

    From the court proceedings, the accused knew that the church building fund was intended for a specific purpose that was unconnected with the crossover project for supporting the singing career of SH. Although the fund was returned to the church through the complex scheme of round tripping, the timing and manner of this act suggested that this was to cover up the misappropriation. Hence, the evidence showed that the six accused had intended to cause wrongful loss to the church.

    Alternatively, we need to consider any wrongful gain was intended. Yes, SH had accrued a wrongful gain as she avoided using her own money and instead used the church fund to pay for all the music making expenses for producing her personal album in USA which is unconnected to the gospel of Jesus.

    The submissions of "No Case to Answer" may not stand the test of Meas Rea.
  • Prayer meetings are once again geared up to pray for the no case to answer to be successful. I just don't understand this - aren't the members interested to know the truth despite many things not made known until the court proceedings? Or to get the leadership to respond to the many inconsistencies that have been surfaced so far ?

    I ever heard a comment such as, "Let's hope that this case will be settled soon (accused's lawyers will succeed in dropping the case), so that we can all move on to do greater things for God.." Will we ever be assured that pastor will give a full account or answer all the allegations in an open manner if he succeeds in having the case drop? I think not....many details would be buried and nothing has happened.

    When a pastor presented the budget last year during one of the services.. I dun recall this pastor elaborating in detail on the "property investment" and the part on investment....

    Pastor...you have been asking us to be open and accountable to leaders and members all these years... why are you not walking the talk now and even endorse the lawyers' no case to answer motion?
  • I am curious why CHC would choose to dwell on the rigourous law of the Old Testament, while proclaiming that we live by grace in the New Testament promise. The topic of the tithe is frequently used as a means to convict believers not to "rob what is of God", and to give a tenth of our income to the house of God in order to release blessings from God to the faithful believers.

    However, this "law" is stipulated in the old days before Jesus Christ, due to the religious and social system of ancient Israel, and because it used to be agricultural economy back then.

    I stumbled across this article which might shed some light on how tithing came about and how it applies to Christians of today's society.



    What Does the Bible Say About the Tithe or Tithing?
    www.christianbiblereference.org
    The Bible's teaching on tithing
  • Hi to all, I would like to ask how long will a cg meeting take because my wife have been attending CHC CG meetings sometimes end quite late 12+ is this supposed to be?